Lots of listening, some shouting at Bloomer meeting

2011-04-18T22:30:00Z 2011-04-20T16:19:18Z Lots of listening, some shouting at Bloomer meetingBy ROD STETZER| rod.stetzer@lee.net Chippewa Herald
April 18, 2011 10:30 pm  • 

BLOOMER – Marge Helgerson of Cornell has spotted a trend that disturbs her.

Helgerson said she has worked 17 years at the Cornell Food Pantry. She is seeing more and more people having to get food from the pantry. Others are saying they can’t afford paying for their prescriptions, she said.

“I can see where people are hurting,” she told 23rd District state Sen. Terry Moulton (R-Eau Claire) and 67th District state Rep. Tom Larson (R-Colfax) during a listening session in Bloomer, which drew an overflow crowd.

Most of the speakers in the crowded community room of the G.E. Bleskachek Family Library in Bloomer quietly made their points.

But the session at times reflected the raucous debate in Madison over Republican Gov. Scott Walker’s budget plans.

For instance, Moulton told  Helgerson that the governor’s two-year budget plan would leave intact the state’s SeniorCare program, which helps pay for prescription drugs for people over age 65.

That answer was greeted elsewhere in the audience with skepticism Walker will deliver on that.

“Can we trust him?” one person shouted.

There were other times when answers by either Larson or Moulton were greeted by groans or raised voices contesting the points.

Bloomer kindergarten teacher Cindy Michaelis worried about a projected $580,000 shortfall in the Bloomer School District. The district, which has an annual budget of about $12 million, is looking at laying off staff or reducing services to make up for the shortfall.

She said the state budget controversy has caused divisions among people she knows, including her family. She said she is sadden that people can’t listen to one another.

“Let’s do some consensus bargaining,” Michaelis said.

She was greeted by applause when she said that people should share ideas and listen to each other.

Bloomer Superintendent Mary Randall called for a change in the way tax levy credits are extended to people  who own property but live outside of Wisconsin.

“I think property levy credits should go to primary property owners in Wisconsin,” Randall said.

Moulton said doing that may conflict with the uniformity clause in the Wisconsin Constitution, but he would check on that.

Randall said with the proposed education cuts and revenue caps, “You squeezed us at both ends.”

Edward Hebert of Chippewa Falls pointed to a recent article in the Herald that showed an increased number of Chippewa County students qualify for free or reduced-price meals.

He criticized Gov. Walker’s proposed budget cuts to schools and Badgercare, a state health care program.

“They’re attacking the absolute wrong part of society,” he said of the cuts.

Cal Kraemer, a Chippewa Falls resident who is a former Chippewa County agriculture agent, asked why at a time Wisconsin has a tax deficit it is finding ways to give tax breaks to people in the upper incomes.

“Why are we afraid to tax the wealthy?” he asked.

Bloomer resident James Madison said Moulton’s decision to vote for Walker’s budget repair bill was ludicrous, saying it harmed the young, the old and the less fortunate.

“You’ve just taken middle class people and you’ve just cut $8,000 to $10,000 of their income,” Madison said.

He said he’s sick and tired of the state giving tax breaks to corporations and making those breaks on the backs of working people.

“If you want to align yourself with Joseph McCarthy and Scott Walker, go ahead,” he told Moulton and Larson.

Gary Bergstrom of Bloomer thanked the legislators for coming to Bloomer. “It had to take a lot of courage for you to come out and face your constituents,” he said.

Bergstrom passionately told Moulton and Larson that leaders are expected to unify people.

“I can’t believe how divided we’ve come,” he said.

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(35) Comments

  1. Chuckie
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    Chuckie - April 24, 2011 8:47 am
    General Volunteers: KloppenburgVolunteer@gmail.com
    Volunteer Lawyers: KloppenburgLegal@gmail.com

    Its as easy as 1,2 3. Whiners need not apply.
  2. wreckerguy
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    wreckerguy - April 23, 2011 7:35 pm
    And your still not a part of it. Nice try tho......someone like you will never be involved, just scream from the sideline.
  3. Chuckie
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    Chuckie - April 23, 2011 10:00 am
    wreckerguy, FYI,

    General Volunteers: KloppenburgVolunteer@gmail.com
    Volunteer Lawyers: KloppenburgLegal@gmail.com

    tic-toc-tic-toc
  4. Chuckie
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    Chuckie - April 23, 2011 7:32 am
    I will keep you posted wreckerguy, 251 days until scatt-rat-walker recall and recount begins in 4. tic-toc-tic-toc
  5. wreckerguy
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    wreckerguy - April 23, 2011 7:13 am
    No you won't chuckie. Your not a part of this. Do you honestly think people on this site are stupid enough to believe you? Quit lying. You make it sound like your gonna uncover "truths". There is nothing to uncover. The votes were cast, will be recounted by both sides watching(not you) and will be verified. There will only be a small discrepancy(maybe 150 votes). You sir, have not "signed up" for anything. Go back to fantasy land.
  6. Chuckie
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    Chuckie - April 22, 2011 10:57 pm
    wreckerguy said: "No you won't. You have no part in this recount, other than you want everyone to believe you do. Sorry Chuckie, your just not that important. The recount will be handle by both sides, but your not included. Keep trying tho...maybe someday when you grow up they might let you play in the sandbox."

    Signed-up yesterday wreckerguy and recount starts Wednesday. A couple areas even sooner but not my concern. Ya snooze ya lose, obviously you must do a lot of snoozing
  7. wreckerguy
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    wreckerguy - April 22, 2011 10:39 pm
    Rainbird said: "It is unions that built this country"

    No they didn't. Time for a history lesson. Farmers and Merchants built this country. Unions had their time in history during the latter half of the industrial revolution. They had their time,like many other steps this country took during it's growth. But like government,they have gotten top heavy,relying to much political movement money versus job growth and creation. A union hates those who want to create jobs they will lose.
  8. wreckerguy
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    wreckerguy - April 22, 2011 10:30 pm
    Chuckie said: "There is still the recount and they may very well find some more "BLUNDERS." I keep you posted Mike."

    No you won't. You have no part in this recount, other than you want everyone to believe you do. Sorry Chuckie, your just not that important. The recount will be handle by both sides, but your not included. Keep trying tho...maybe someday when you grow up they might let you play in the sandbox.
  9. Chuckie
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    Chuckie - April 22, 2011 7:12 pm
    Michael said: "Sounds to me like the Bloomer Library may have run out of paper towels in the rest rooms from all of my whining and wiping my weepy eyes, I wanted Kloppenburg to win so very badly. "

    There is still the recount and they may very well find some more "BLUNDERS." I keep you posted Mike.


  10. Michael
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    Michael - April 21, 2011 11:14 pm
    Chuckie said: "It was Unions that got Kloppenburg elected."

    She lost.

  11. Chuckie
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    Chuckie - April 21, 2011 7:36 pm
    It was Unions and the taxpayer that just got the 5th repug senator recalled. tic-toc-tic-toc.
  12. Michael
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    Michael - April 21, 2011 2:53 pm
    Sounds to me like the Bloomer Library may have run out of paper towels in the rest rooms from all of the whiners wiping their eyes.
  13. Michael
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    Michael - April 21, 2011 2:51 pm
    Rainbird said: "It is unions that built this country"

    Incorrect, the Unions have become a Corporation courtesy of the workers. They do not care about the worker, they care about receiving their dues.
  14. Sand-Blaster
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    Sand-Blaster - April 20, 2011 5:45 pm
    danielgeorge said: "First I recall the visit of some Indians to my father's house, and the latter ..... Two weeks later, a second meeting of the same character was held In ...... and friends were afforded oppor- tunity of listening to some of the most noted.______________Daniel GeorgeOnline Dating"

    Makes NO SENSE
    & Online Dating??
    SPAMMER!!!~!!!
  15. Rainbird
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    Rainbird - April 20, 2011 2:36 pm
    It is unions that built this country and unions that keep wages for the workers, all workers, union and non-union, up. It is people like Alpine and Scott Walker that want to give corporate welfare, big tax breaks to mega-corporations and the rich. Yesterday a report came out that the wage divide between the average worker and the average CEO was "worker wages X 348 = CEO". Alpine, how can you say that is right? And how can you give that CEO yet another tax break?
  16. cornellian54732
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    cornellian54732 - April 20, 2011 2:06 pm
    Rather than continue to hand out food at the Cornell Food Pantry, why not shut it down. Many that get food from there put their cigarette out just before walking in the door to get food and then head straight to the 24/7 fitness parking lot area to wait for the Bingo bus. The ones that actually attend the meal are mainly older people that are there for the social aspect rather than needing help.
  17. Wondering Alooud
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    Wondering Alooud - April 20, 2011 12:24 pm
    Alpine this is a cute trick, someone claims public sector jobs are so much higher in pay and benefits, and even though it is easy to demonstrate that the claim is a total lie; you become furious and spew hate at your neighbor in defense of the people that just lied to you. Funny you can call the other sides claims propaganda and be totally unwilling to wonder if your own claims are exactly that.
  18. danielgeorge
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    danielgeorge - April 20, 2011 3:15 am
    First I recall the visit of some Indians to my father's house, and the latter ..... Two weeks later, a second meeting of the same character was held In ...... and friends were afforded oppor- tunity of listening to some of the most noted.
    ______________
    Daniel George
    Online Dating
  19. Rainmaker
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    Rainmaker - April 19, 2011 10:42 pm
    The people doing the shouting were Wisconsin Citizens trying to get a message through to elected officials that were not listening to them.
  20. Bones
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    Bones - April 19, 2011 6:24 pm
    CCLOVER...Nobody in their right mind likes to be laughed at, called a lazy deadbeat, or told not to suck off the government. I know if I fell victim to these things, I would use it as a motivation to make myself a better upstanding citizen so I wasn't the grunt of other peoples jokes and ridicule.

    People need to look at the future and lay their ground work to achieve their goals in life. Stopping at the store and buying smokes, beer and lottery tickets probably isn't going to get you there!
  21. SpendWisely
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    SpendWisely - April 19, 2011 4:23 pm
    Many of the poor are that way becuase of bad choices. I'm ok with helping someone down on their luck, but laziness is not an excuse. Also, why are these people having so many kids if they can't afford them? There are way too many irresponsible people and I'm sick of paying for them!
  22. CFHunter
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    CFHunter - April 19, 2011 4:19 pm
    mamamia is right, how can you pay your bills on $8-$10 an hour plus buy $6+/pack smokes. Pay for your $100+/month cell phone bill(with unlimited texting of course), cable, etc... Don't forget the tavern money every weekend or week night for that matter. I just don't see how it can be done without some taxpayer assistance. It's called priorities. Before you complain you better make sure you have cut all the crap that you don't need before you ask for a handout.
  23. Alan_Shore
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    Alan_Shore - April 19, 2011 2:11 pm
    Lets go after the corporations- lets make walmart and menards pay taxes on their holdings- Walmart owns around 2 billion dollars of property here that they pay little or NO tax on-
    Have you seen walmarts stock price- Menards buys property to prevent OTHER RETAILERS from buying it and there it sits- 81 acres SE of the hallie store #5373- Home depot offered 4 million to buy and would have CREATED 300-450 full and part-time jobs --

    Lets make things better instead of picking on the POOR

  24. Alan_Shore
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    Alan_Shore - April 19, 2011 1:54 pm
    Raise the tax on beer from 6 cents a gallon to 16cents a gallon- 3 cents LOWER than 22 other states - this would net OUR state 250 million dollars THIS YEAR ALONE- how about taking back the 130 million dollar BUSINESS GIFT - scooter walker and his cronies voted to pass RIGHT BEFORE they voted to ban Unions- how about - lets REMOVE LIFETIME MEDICAL INSURANCE and GOLD BOAT RETIREMENT of every elected senator and legislator in our state captured savings of 600 million 5 years- theres a Billion $
  25. WeThePeople
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    WeThePeople - April 19, 2011 1:26 pm
    Why to say it "bones" and yes I am a church going person also. Why is it my fault that people have gotten THEMSELVES into the situations they are in? I my self have not made the best choices either, but I made it! Two kids, one income in 1985. The income earner made 7.50 an hour, we rented a shack and never asked for food stamps!
  26. cclover
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    cclover - April 19, 2011 1:20 pm
    To Chip95 and Bones, Are you church going people? The way you write I really can't believe that you are. If you believe in a Superior Being do you think that He or She feels the way you do? I certainly hope not. Let us all hope that neither of you ever need any help because of an injury or illness, or because you have lost your job. If you did, would you ask for help? And also how would you feel if you were laughed at or called a lazy deadbeat, and told not to suck off of the government?
  27. Chip95
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    Chip95 - April 19, 2011 12:57 pm
    Bones- well said
  28. Bones
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    Bones - April 19, 2011 12:50 pm
    "Walker’s budget repair bill was ludicrous, saying it harmed the young, the old and the less fortunate."

    How do people get in a less fortunate situation? The majority of these people fall into one or more of the following categories. Lazy/deadbeat, made poor decisions in life, or like to suck off the government.

    This is AMERICA...make of yourself what you want and don't expect the government or anyone else to feel sorry for what you've made of yourself. Don't like it...DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
  29. Keepin it Real
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    Keepin it Real - April 19, 2011 12:43 pm
    Mr. Shores ok solve the problem You can't raise more taxes so what do you do? I'm still fortunate to have a job and you can't continue to tax me because soon I'll need some help too. Instead of praising the former elected State officials look what they did. I've seen you praising them. I do give what I can to help out others, I travel for work and my gasoline has increased. What do you do? We need to creat a work friendly environment and people can get jobs and work their way up. America
  30. Bob
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    Bob - April 19, 2011 12:35 pm
    Mr. WeThePeople?

    What about your Rep. Duffy, complaining he can't raise his family on $177,000 a year in Wisconson. Republinuts are hypcrites.
  31. Alan_Shore
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    Alan_Shore - April 19, 2011 12:22 pm
    mamamia- well said
  32. Keepin it Real
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    Keepin it Real - April 19, 2011 12:16 pm
    Ah Mamamia you don't know how many people I help on a daily basis both with my time and with my funds. You don't EVEN have a clue. Many of us are hurting but many of us find a way to make it. I've had to work 2 jobs several times in my life, I've gone without insurance and have had to take in a roomate. The point of my comments were why aren't these folks or why didn't these folks complain to Doyle and those that put us in this position. No poor folks have ever offered me a job either.
  33. mamamia
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    mamamia - April 19, 2011 11:54 am
    What is wrong with you? Who are you to sit and judge the people who need help. You don't know their situations. Tell me how you can feed & clothe a family of 4 plus medical/dental/eye care on $8-$10/hr? Most of the mfg. jobs are going to 12 hr rotating shift. How do you find day care for those kinds of hour & PAY for it? Terry Moulton doesn't care..he doesn't bother to answer phone or emails. Scott Walker is a crook. You need to GET REAL!
  34. WeThePeople
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    WeThePeople - April 19, 2011 10:35 am
    Right on keepin it real! Come on people! How many of the people come to the food pantry and smoke? Buy pop, beer, candy, etc, you get the point. Look with in yourselves people, instead of a hand out. Yes where were we when Doyle, Kreitlow and others created this dependancy on the government. We were sleeping and let it happen! I have made it going without, so don't bad mouth me!
  35. Keepin it Real
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    Keepin it Real - April 19, 2011 10:09 am
    What the he double hockey sticks is wrong with some people. How long have these folks been in office 4 months maybe. Granted Walker hasn't been perfect that's for sure. Did anyone come out and complain about Doyle, Kreitlow, Smith and Dexter... Probably not how did we get in the position we are now in. These new group of politicans are trying to clean up the mess from the past. Also are some of these folks hicks? Shouting at meetings or speaking out of turn give me a break.
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